Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? His behavior and his videos are being looked over with a toothcomb and theyre getting it all wrong. And lets keep that open out there, keep that flowing, keep the information coming in.". And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. You dont think there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? But definitely I dont know him.". How many teams were present and which team found the girls? Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. SPM2 also reported that there were stuffed animals at the crime scene. There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Pictures 1, 2, 3, and 5 show the area during and after the search. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. We have never given up. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. It is in the best interest of the public to find anybody else involved.. I appreciate your work. DELPHI, Ind. 00:14:20 - In this episode, the Murder Sheet provides several quick updates on the Delphi murders and the related investigation into the "anthony_shots" profil LE? So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th. Thats also why he started addressing the killer because he was right there in the room! How long did it take to get everyone together? So were all just kind feeling our way and figuring out what our purpose is now. You realize that we have a detective in Indiana who told us that Mr. X is LEs main suspect in this case, right? I dont even know what that means. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. If I go with the assumption that it might have been a group of searchers that didn't include members of LE, I can't imagine being a member of the community and volunteering to help to search for anyone and then finding the person or persons deceased in probably what was an obvious sign of a homicide(s), especially as someone such as myself who has no LE experience (or medical experience, etc.) Its about Abby and Libby, their families and this community.. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . We share similar philosophies. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. Im not sure about that. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. Authorities conducted an all-day search of the Delphi double murder suspect's property around 10 days before his arrest, sources told The Post. Or Libby was going to tell all and bring many people down from previous insurance/appraisal scams? The members of the search party who found them must still have visions and memories of that tragic day etched in their minds. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. I was just listening to a podcast episode about the Evansdale murders, and I noticed something: 1) both sets of girls were abducted off a recreational trail, and at a point where they were blocked on both sides (in Delphi by the height of the bridge, in Evansdale by chain link fences on either side), and 2) in both cases the girls were killed and/or dumped at a local hunting ground. A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He is a welder and the hat the BG is wearing looks like a welders cap. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. Make Begs the question, WTF were they up to? Police have quizzed Kegan Kline over his correspondences with Libby German, a transcript leaked by Murder Sheet earlier this year revealed. Searcher Eric Williams speaks after nearly six years of no justice. We have no idea. They may have if they'd known the girls had been killed, but remember that until they found the bodies the worst they were prepared for was finding the girls badly injured or dead from exposure. DELPHI, Ind. Libby's grandmother, Becky Patty, told reporters that Allen had processed photos of the girls at a local drug store and did not charge the family for the cost. Hi Robert. Now I sit here not needing to do it because at long last we have a face to go with our monster, Patty wrote Saturday in a Facebook post. Its sad. omygosh what a shame! The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. The revelation is included in a nine-page request for a search warrant filed March 17, 2017, a little more than one month after the murders. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. (http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html). On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Delphi was revenge for Flora. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. Love your writing and insights. I see a stocking hat behind the head. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. Good job! "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. His name only got out recently with the Leaker leak. Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. However, realize firstly as vast as that wooded area was, RLs property when you zoom out isnt the most ideal place to hide a body, being so close to the cemetery. Police initially believed the. Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. How was it organized? Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. The main suspect and the CSI guy. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a7aaf19783c3ef0be4e1653389843f4e" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. WISH-TV was the first to break the story connecting Kline to the Anthony Shots social media profile in Dec. 2021. For years, Becky Patty, Libertys grandmother, has posted a photo on Facebook every day in memory of the girls, usually with the words Today is the day in the image. Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of an unsolved double homicide. I suspect he was breeding pitbulls for dogfighting. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? But our understanding is she never showed up, and there was no spare set in the first place, so she had nothing to bring him! Big Tweety bird eyes. Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. Very interesting. Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. No, but no way is this guy involved. ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. About the stuffed animals hanging from the trees. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. When the girls did not return to their rendezvous point, family called authorities and a search began. I find it pretty compelling that BP is connected to 6 murdered girls!? Also who said this crime was over quickly? It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. 4 min read. . I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. He took his wife with him. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Local Indiana man arrested, charged in 2017 Delphi murders of teens. Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? Were there (are there) people from the search party talking on some obscure boards we know nothing of? I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. Rozzi rhetorically asked. "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. But werent the FBI involved from the start? Did anyone from the families join the search party? Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. We must trust their sources and investigative techniques. 187 5.6K views 2 years ago THE DELPHI MURDERS - THE SEARCH (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS) Breaking down the search in the case. Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. Delphi Murders Walkthrough via CrimeDoor The girls failed to meet Libby's father at the appointed time of 3:15 pm. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Im not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because theres something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. "No. I think they were lured or catfished at some point. Kline is facing 30 child porn-related charges stemming from his alleged use of thefake social media account. Non-uniform officers searched. Ive probably seen him. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? They had embarked on an afternoon hike the day before their discovery. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. Kline responded. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . In an effort to help the public recognize whom they were looking for, Indiana State Police in July 2017 released a composite sketch of what they thought the killer looked like. Would you consider writing a post on him? 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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Travis Trexler was arrested on DUI charges, Kegan Kline was contacting Libby German through a catfish social media account the night before she was murdered, Libby (left) was murdered alongside her best-friend Abigail Williams (right) in Feb. 2017, Travis Trexler is a cousin of Kegan Kline's, Police ended a six-week search of the Washab River on Wednesday, The culprit behind the murders has never been identified, Precisely how the two girls were killed has never been revealed by police. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. Was just thinking this!! "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. Example, women think they got game, they dont.. 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