Not a shock, since they also decided it was a good idea to put in Nile Rodgers as a sideman when substantially all his HOF credentials were through Chic (which he himself acknowledged), which ironically has destroyed Chic's chances (since they technically can't factor him in as he was inducted on his work with Chic amongst other groups). Devo (Level 1) -I have to say Madonna. Fats Domino: 10/10 Tier 1 - Nina Simone, Bon Jovi, Journey, Joan Baez "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Nina Simone 1)Do you have to consider them in any "best of all-time" discussions? Over 10 years ago, ESPN's Bill Simmons 1 introduced the world to the concept of a Baseball Hall of Fame pyramid, as a way to provide relative importance to the inductees. 60. This thread is archived Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 11:28am Joan Jett is currently in last place for her solo career. 38. 14. 2009 Wanda Jackson Dire Straits Bobby Dandridge. Wilson Pickett Best outside US and UK: If Joni Mitchell and Neil Young still count as Canadian, I'm going with them. Cat Stevens Oops. MotorTrend Ultimate Adventure visits the Georgia Racing Hall of Fame: Join us for our upcoming events! Public Enemy: 3 12. 157. The ones who should move up? Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). Monty Python & The Holy Grail I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. I know Bill has him higher, but he doesn't have the body of work just yet. (including Chicago) Level Two: Im-Ho-Tep (Boris Karloff) ), Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 22:48pm. It's taking a lot longer than I thought to compile the list, so stay tuned. 2005 was pretty good too. Rating Numbers: "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway The Cars "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: Chicago: 6/10 Laura Nyro: Influenced Billy Joel. Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. 2. However, my perception of The Pretenders has always been that they are similar in stature to Heart (which is accurately depicted in the Pyramid with both on Tier 1). Press J to jump to the feed. Jackson Browne: 7/10 (Think about it) . The Rock Pyramid is missing the class of 2017 and 2018 inductees. 12. The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. Bob Marley or Jimmy Cliff Bobby "Blue" Bland 2011 The Cure Lionel Richie: 6/10 The most "most mean" is on how the artist's relation to people. I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. Yes- 4 Cheap Trick The Smiths 179. I didn't ask for it. He was a musical revolutionary for whom the record industry had to create new marketing terms to describe. *****************THE MIRACLES******************** 107. Agreed. The Cars - 1 (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) Her induction was more important as a recognition of her ability to rise back up without her abusive husband that it was about the quality and impact of her solo catalog. He was the best center in the league for 5 years (yes, the competition for that title was, let's say, lacking). 202. Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:37pm. Karl Malone, 21. 164. Depeche Mode, T.Rex, Nine Inch Nails, and Whitney are all incredibly low. Chicago 1 153. ZZ Top: 7/10 Probably one of the innumerable sissy singer-songwriters (Joni Mitchell and James Taylor come to mind immediately). Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong or crazy or both in the comments. 90. I'm not a RAWKist, but if I obey the asterisk, I'd probably say Percy Sledge. 1992 Cream Bill Sharman, 60. Marvin Gaye: 10/10 But, he had to join a 73-win team to get there. Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. Al Green -Most mean? Muddy Waters David Bowie should be moved up to the top of the fourth level. Weirdest: I agree with the consensus, Michael Jackson and Frank Zappa. Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? Looks like this has been updated. Ritchie Valens: 7/10 Musical understanding cannot be static. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. 88. Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. The Four Seasons: 7/10 We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify Prince Basically these acts are all Level 2, Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 18:13pm. Aerosmith: 9/10 Thank you. 1987 Louis Jordan Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. I've hated Young's music since my teen years, when I was in my rockist phase (Rather odd saying that, considering Young is a rockist fave). The Rolling Stones 5 Bob Marley (Level 5) Difficult to say. All the Indiana Jones films Posted by John R.C. There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. Judas Priest would have been a Level 2 if they were inducted as performers. 4/10 = Marginal 1998 on Thursday, 03.7.13 @ 23:05pm Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. As Bill Simmons wrote in his article, it's just more fun to think of the Hall of Fame as a pyramid. I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. Isaac Hayes: 7/10 The Doobie Brothers Prince: 10/10 The Stooges Posted by Donnie on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 03:18am. However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. Most of what I would change has been listed earlier. Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05/28/2020 @ 12:15pm, Posted by Frank on Friday, 04/9/2021 @ 04:03am, Cleveland.com put out a ranking of the Performer R&R HoF inductees, "from the best to Bon Jovi" based on, presumably, influence, artistic integrity, I imagine whether they were inducted during a full moon, and of course whether the author(s) liked them. ), and Chuck Willis. The (Small) Faces Take a deep breath. 20. Depeche Mode-Level 2 Nicest: I'd like to think Buddy Holly would get this one, if he were still alive. Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 00:18am. Rock Hall inductees from wanna-bes . Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. Sometimes his team wasn't good enough. Eminem-Level 4-In my opinion, Eminem has absolutely had an impact and back catalogue that can stand aside against David Bowie, U2, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John etc. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. Bill Stewart WJBF-TV 2015 72. Jay-Z-3 but would also be fine with 4 if Eminem gets 4 as well. Joni Mitchell: 9/10 190. Journey: 3/10 As for the newer inductees, 76. Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? 151. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Miles Davis (Level 2) Talking Heads: 9/10 "The Hurt is Over" The DT's In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. Chicago MORE PROOF !!! 2007 Enigmaticus, I agree with you on moving Rush and The Moody Blues up a legion on two up. Plays. Tommy Heinsohn, 65. He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. You were being facetious, were you not? "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:13pm, ** THE MIRACLESand why they SHOULD be Level 4:** How did the series flip? The Pretenders: 8/10 Chris Mullin, 94. Donna Summer Best hip hop: Public Enemy. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Ray Charles. 101. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 12/17/2014 @ 06:51am. C'mon time to add class of 2017 in pyramid: Pearl Jam,Journey,ELO,Joan Baez,Yes and 2Pac. REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. To those who don't feel like looking, Radiohead is a 4, 2Pac is a 3, Pearl Jam, The Cure, Janet Jackson and Roxy Music are 2s, and everyone else is a 1. John Mellencamp And it would be hard to fit both of them in level 5. to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" AP Player of the Year Award; John R. Wooden Award; Naismith Men's College Player . 218. 1 bestselling book from 2009. For some 50 years !! The Temptations: 10/10 Artis Gilmore, 87. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: The Hollies Oh found NIN. ELO "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. Joan Baez 32. Aside from that, I don't recall claiming that my shit doesn't stink; that would be very much unlike me. Deep Purple a 1???" Were they the greatest team of all time? Powered by SMF | Their pioneering work in the folk-rock and country-work scenes is significant enough. I'd at least move up Aretha, the Boss, and Bowie, Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:50pm. 1. Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:25am, Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:26am. The Stooges: 10/10 The Byrds: 10/10 Jerry West, 9. 158. Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 7. Electric Light Orchestra - 1 By 2030, most people will agree he's the best basketball player ever as the memories of MJ fade even more. 51. 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009. At least FIVE ACTS in Level 5 of this Pyramid have PUBLICLY ADMITTED that THEY and/or their MUSIC has been INFLUENCED by Give Orange. Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. The Jackson 5: 9/10 As much as I like SRV as a guitarist, his credentials as a performer (body of work) isn't up to many on the 2nd level. Elvis Costello & The Attractions: 9/10 214. "100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME". Del Shannon "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. That's Level 5. ELO Four All-NBA appearances, six All-Stars, 2nd best or 3rd best player on 4 champs and a runner-up. Bob Seger: 7/10 I guess SONGWRITING , PRODUCING, and INFLUENCE are considered more IMPORTANT than flashy choreography,flashy clothes,and Pop success!! The inductees on Level 1 on the other hand, are often the reason the Rock Hall makes so many people crazy. Thanks! ELO - 1 Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Since there are 221 as of now, two or three more should be promoted to level 5 (and more to the other levels), if only to maintain the proportions. Jerry Lee Lewis He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? Send a Message. And before anyone criticizes my choices by comparison to the current inductees and where they're at on the pyramid, I don't agree with quite a few choices and placements, and would make this pyramid pretty differently. 30. Sam and Dave Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 16:47pm. Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? 155. Michael Jackson, but considering his upbringing I can't really blame him for that. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years . Tupac Shakur The Isley Brothers -I've heard stories that James Brown was a ballbuster. Where's number 5? Percy Sledge: 2/10 School of Rock Black Sabbath Any music released from the early 90s onwards that involves a drum kit and electric guitar has been influenced by Metallica in one way or another, from commercial/stadium rock to the most inaccessible of extreme metal. Jefferson Airplane: 8/10 6. Journey - 1 Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position Posted by Gary on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:23pm. These are basically "L3" guys, only there's something just inherently "greater" about them. I can narrow it down to two; Bob Dylan (every singer-songwriter since) and Jimi Hendrix (every hard rock guitarist since). This site is not affiliated in any way with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum So what happened? Favorite induction year? Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. Aretha Franklin Kate Bush (Level 1) Sister Rosetta Tharpe- 5 Deal wit' it, yo. Dennis Rodman. James Brown didn't either but he was arguably much closer to rock than Ray Charles was while he was performing, same goes for Stevie Wonder. I cannot think of a single scandal or controversy in which he was involved, and I've never heard or read a negative word about him. You want to know about influence? He wound up avoiding being lumped in to any Rock and Roll labeling likely because he was being marketed to a wider and more mature audience than the industry was marketing towards for the acts that got lumped into the early Rock and Roll label. Stevie Wonder. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? 188. That's almost obscene! I think he deserves the rank. 36 Sly and the Family Stone Little Richard (Level 5) Joan Baez - 1 5. If I were to drop anyone it would be The Beastie Boys, or Elvis Costello. 2021 Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 2004 8/10 = No Brainers Their experimentation? 6. "Lower-tier Bob Dylan"? Dr. John and the Miracles Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03.8.13 @ 15:51pm 14. Level 5 Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? "I agree about John Lennon. It's high time that we recognize their limitations as exactly that and take them down off the arbitrary pedestal they were perverse placed on. 47. For now, he just misses the cut. Bruce Springsteen BB King: 10/10 Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. 1986 He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment.
